tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post1454190451901954374..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Adoption is not all 'rosy' for O'DonnellLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-21648053968747885712015-09-19T16:48:26.197-04:002015-09-19T16:48:26.197-04:00I wonder how many scuttle any reunions for those s...I wonder how many scuttle any reunions for those same reasons.......Jan Louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275804204213681445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-11051083642765257912015-09-18T13:14:21.220-04:002015-09-18T13:14:21.220-04:00When you think of how many adoptees hide their reu...When you think of how many adoptees hide their reunions for fear of losing the love - and or financial support and inheritance - of their aps...kit takes a LOT of courage to walk out, no matter how bad an ap is! <br />Mirah Ribenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-32658005863596357612015-09-17T22:07:17.954-04:002015-09-17T22:07:17.954-04:00Thanks for the info, Mirah. Rosie is a poster chil...Thanks for the info, Mirah. Rosie is a poster child for what's wrong with adoption today.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-9090803343213578782015-09-17T19:01:54.434-04:002015-09-17T19:01:54.434-04:00One thing Rosie can't buy is a grown adopted c...One thing Rosie can't buy is a grown adopted child's love. After all those years of adopted manta Chelsea was fed she can no longer tolerate the bullying. Rosie, is a bully. <br />Too bad Barbara Walters daughter didn't have guts to walk after she found her mom. Walters probably gave a ultimatum. Hope, Jackie's mom out lives Barbara. Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04701407465248392373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-46147141253468388782015-09-17T15:25:45.780-04:002015-09-17T15:25:45.780-04:00You forgot to mention two things:
1. Chelsea is h...You forgot to mention two things:<br /><br />1. Chelsea is happily living with her birth mom, Deana Micoley.<br /><br />2, The birth mom of O'Donnell's most recently adopted child, Dakota was ASKED by O'Donnel to have another child for her. Then Rosei reneged on adopting the child when a health issue (that was able to be repaired) was revealed.<br /><br />http://www.lifenews.com/2015/06/12/rosie-odonnell-cancels-plans-to-adopt-unborn-baby-after-she-learns-the-babys-disabled/<br /><br />All this from a woman who reportedly told one of her adopted children that God placed them in the 'wrong tummy." If that is what she thinks about adoption, would she have rejected or aborted this child with a health issue?<br /> <br />Mirah Ribenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-79768470012033567852015-09-16T22:02:44.549-04:002015-09-16T22:02:44.549-04:00She shouldn't have to be adopted back; ideally...She shouldn't have to be adopted back; ideally she should be able to get the adoption abrogated. gailnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-364008550453597292015-09-16T21:16:25.169-04:002015-09-16T21:16:25.169-04:00If rosie doesn't hand it over, why not start a...If rosie doesn't hand it over, why not start a fresh and give her original name back. She can be adopted by her mums husband as a screw you to rosie o'donnell and her supporters.Madman82https://www.blogger.com/profile/06588739581545243907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-59486417638123281952015-09-16T15:47:03.283-04:002015-09-16T15:47:03.283-04:00True, non adopted kids (should we call them nature...True, non adopted kids (should we call them naturees or maybe naturals) have behavioral problems. Adopted kids have a burden which kept kids don't. Being adopterd can be the tipping point leading them to suicide, drug use, and so on.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-52633518770200157022015-09-16T12:12:18.012-04:002015-09-16T12:12:18.012-04:00Hi Mashka,
Please read the article "Toward Pr...Hi Mashka,<br />Please read the article "Toward Preventing Adoption-Related Suicide" at Musings of the Lame. The statistics are very scary. Too many adoptive parents send their children off to schools and institutions that say they will fix these kids. <br />My daughter (by adoption) is outwardly the best teenager in town. A poster child for single parent adoption success. But her insecurities can be set off easily and send her running back to my shadow. I am happy to be her "security blanket" and will be there for her for the rest of my life. However, she should have never been separated from her mom in China.<br />Also read The Confessions of an Adoptee on tumblr. The pain is very real. momengineernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-2388995117758107932015-09-16T08:04:03.361-04:002015-09-16T08:04:03.361-04:00And let us not forget what an absolute brute her b...And let us not forget what an absolute brute her brother, Assemblyman Danny O'Donnell is on adoptee rights! He was rude and condescending to our lobby group and has no compassion at all for the rights of the adopted to learn their own identities. <br /> <a href="http://www.firstmotherforum.com/2015/07/lobbying-for-obcs-in-new-york.html" rel="nofollow">Lobbying for OBCs in New York</a>Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-78533591422597810312015-09-16T07:27:19.176-04:002015-09-16T07:27:19.176-04:00It was more a response to momengineer. And boy did...It was more a response to momengineer. And boy did autocorrect have its way with me! Mashkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-82733922905375412052015-09-16T05:51:14.484-04:002015-09-16T05:51:14.484-04:00The only thing certain about adoption is differenc...The only thing certain about adoption is difference, a different life, some better, some worse, and nobody can predict in advance which way it will go. Yes, there is loss, but there are also gains, depending on the circumstances and temperament of everyone involved. Adoption does not guarantee a better life, that is a lie that should be put to rest. I don't think any of Rosie's adopted children got a very good life with her, because she seems quite unfit to be a parent. Agree with Mashka that she may have been just as bad a parent to biological children, and that many celebrity children have an unstable life, natural or adopted. Funny, we hear of all the trainwrecked lives, but not of the decent celebrities who tried to keep their families out of the limelight and raise them decently.<br /><br /> I hope it works out for Chelsea with her natural mother, but it is very early days to say how that will go. All any of us know is what is in the sensational media says about any of the parties, natural or adoptive. The fact that the mother was a drug addict and the child was basically sold to the highest bidder does not look too good. Yes, Chelsea ran to her, but it remains to be seen how that will work out. I know many situations where a troubled adoptee moved in with the birthfamily right after reunion, and then multiple problems on both sides surfaced and things fell apart. <br /><br />The real culprit is the system that allows someone like Rosie with enough money to buy a child, regardless of how unfit to raise children she has proven to be. As to her infamous "wrong tummy" comment, I hope that comes back to haunt her. It has always annoyed me that celebrity and very rich couples can adopt because they can pay, even with a lifestyle and problems that would take the average person with average income right off any ethical adoption agencies' list of those fit to adopt.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-36132712677299014382015-09-16T02:08:09.439-04:002015-09-16T02:08:09.439-04:00Mashka, you didn't read the piece to the end.Mashka, you didn't read the piece to the end. Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-64227944796338003692015-09-15T21:31:19.938-04:002015-09-15T21:31:19.938-04:00Of course not, but this is an example of an adopti...Of course not, but this is an example of an adoption where the adoptee hightailed back to her natural mother as soon as she could. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-35706897311767051022015-09-15T21:11:47.565-04:002015-09-15T21:11:47.565-04:00The problem may just be Rosie O'Donnelly and n...The problem may just be Rosie O'Donnelly and not necessarily the adoption. Some people shouldn't be parents, whether you gave birth to the child or adopted her. People like to bring up Michael Reagan, adopted son of President Reagan and his first wife Jane Wyman, but Patti Davis, natural daughter of President Reagan and his second wife Nancy was equally as troubled as a youth. Rosie might have been the adoptive "parent" but it seems as soon as Chelsea wasn't cute enough for photon ops she was sent to boarding school after boarding school, so it can't be said that Rosie raised her. In that economic and social sphere, there are probably just as many kept children who end up in the same screwed up circumstances. For example, Drew Barrymore wasn't adopted. Tatum O'Neal wasn't adopted. MacKenzie Phillips wasn't adopted. Miley Cyrus wasn't adopted. None of the Jackson children (Michael's generation) was adopted. Let's not forget that Deanna Micoley was a drug addict during her pregnancy with Chelsea/Kayla. It wouldn't be unheard of for her to have issues due to that! Rosie O'Donnelly is a bad mother from all accounts. She probably would have been exactly the same if she had birthed those kids herself. Not everything bad that happens to an adoptee can be traced back to adoption.Mashkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-39717268558911401372015-09-15T16:48:20.055-04:002015-09-15T16:48:20.055-04:00My best wishes to both Deanna and Kayla (Chelsea)....My best wishes to both Deanna and Kayla (Chelsea). <br />I hope this makes every potential adoptive parent rethink plans to take an infant from its mother. Too many adoptees get labeled troubled or mentally ill. The real problem is adoption.momengineernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-70595728784837233532015-09-15T15:28:40.914-04:002015-09-15T15:28:40.914-04:00I'll never forget Rosie's answer to a repo...I'll never forget Rosie's answer to a reporter when asked what she told Parker about his adoption.<br />(a little paraphrasing here) I told him that God put you in the wrong tummy but when he realized his mistake, he gave you to me. Barbara Shawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-66123956908441740302015-09-15T13:07:09.696-04:002015-09-15T13:07:09.696-04:00Maryanne, from everything I have read the natural ...Maryanne, from everything I have read the natural mom sounds wonderful. She was 20 years old when her husband conspired to take away her daughter against her wishes. Today she is in her late 30s and is the mother to four other children. And in interviews she has always called Chelsea by her adoptive name, even though I am sure she is saying "Kayla" inside. Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-63598235388678525702015-09-15T08:07:29.252-04:002015-09-15T08:07:29.252-04:00Poor kid. She had a lousy, chaotic life with the v...Poor kid. She had a lousy, chaotic life with the vindictive Rosy, but the natural mother does not sound much better. I hope it all works out for her eventually. Big money adoptions by celebrities or anyone with more money than sense ought to be outlawed.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-13972160851828112512015-09-13T22:11:26.822-04:002015-09-13T22:11:26.822-04:00Chelsea's birth name was Kayla. Rosie changed...Chelsea's birth name was Kayla. Rosie changed it.<br /><br />I also believe that Rosie knew that Deanna was drugged when she signed the adoption papers. She was a young woman who was taken New Jersey by her husband, a thousand miles away from her family and friends in Wisconsin. This is a typical tactic involved in coerced adoptions--isolate the person from everyone and everything they know and love.<br /><br />After losing her daughter, Deanna had Kayla's name tattooed above her heart.<br /><br />I also read that Rosie refused to give Chelsea her amended birth certificate or Social Security card. Chelsea might need those in order to establish her identity and build a life for herself in Wisconsin. It speaks volumes about Rosie O'Donnell that she would deny those to her a-daughter as retaliation for returning to her first mother and biological relatives.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-79173962595244660032015-09-13T19:31:05.407-04:002015-09-13T19:31:05.407-04:00BTW, the above leads to an adoption agency website...BTW, the above leads to an adoption agency website. <br />Our Philosophy<br /><br />The Adoption STAR philosophy is to provide highly individualized services to Support, Train, Advocate, and offer Resources to adoptive parents, birth parents and community professionals as they explore the adoption option. We offer the experience of adoption, a full training curriculum, advocacy assistance, and comprehensive resources on adoption. Most importantly, we have the ability to offer personalized attention to all clients. The adoption process can often be confusing and frustrating. We offer our support, knowledge, assistance, and most importantly, our attention, to make this process easier.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-67190104734530879742015-09-13T16:49:28.908-04:002015-09-13T16:49:28.908-04:00Unfortunately, since the early 1900s the entitleme...Unfortunately, since the early 1900s the entitlement that comes with fame has often translated into procuring children ....see how this adoption site uses famous adopters as examples so that you, too, can become an adoptive parent "star".....<br /><br />http://www.adoptionstar.com/adoptive-parents/famous-adoptive-parents/#hollywood<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16802527013940724814noreply@blogger.com