tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post3366003297518889843..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Steve Jobs, Mona Simpson, and Paternity: It's all in the familyLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-63430494967146747742016-01-19T10:28:29.045-05:002016-01-19T10:28:29.045-05:00Also I like to know the adopted parents who loved ...Also I like to know the adopted parents who loved and cared for Steve Jobs, did they become wealthy as a result of Jobs' success? Whosjohnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04820132093884242559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-32362235189787323142016-01-19T10:27:11.382-05:002016-01-19T10:27:11.382-05:00Did Steve's birth mother ever reached out to h...Did Steve's birth mother ever reached out to him before and during his dying years? I'm more interested now in his birth mother since all I hear is Mona Simpson and Steve Jobs met up with birth mother but no details as to what was said or as a result of their meeting with birth mother. Did she ever say sorry to Steve? Are they on good terms? <br /><br />At least the father since finding out in 2005, wrote him emails to see how he's doing and Steve Jobs responded "Thank you". Whosjohnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04820132093884242559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-59138001338347513502011-10-14T17:04:33.479-04:002011-10-14T17:04:33.479-04:00Let Steve Jobs rest in peace?
Doesn't look l...Let Steve Jobs rest in peace?<br /><br /> Doesn't look like he let the "living human beings <br />rest" why should he rest Mirah, he created hell<br />on earth for many with exploitation, humiliation<br /> and denial. Created his image before his death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-86052391479024580762011-10-14T13:08:55.969-04:002011-10-14T13:08:55.969-04:00Jane -
Excellent article. Insightful, written w...Jane - <br /><br />Excellent article. Insightful, written well and kind of like the old Cliff Notes, allowing me to gain a little wisdom without reading all of those authors and their books (although I need to - life seems to be exponentially busier than lets say 10 years ago). Thank you for sharing.Struggling Fulcrumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-14882377320278308322011-10-14T12:44:39.551-04:002011-10-14T12:44:39.551-04:00Struggling Fulcrum,
Yes, I am the same Jane Eliza...Struggling Fulcrum,<br /><br />Yes, I am the same Jane Elizabeth Edwards who wrote "What Memoirs of Adopted Daughters Tell Mothers."<br /><br />Thanks for asking.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669797756463841249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-60437446371403325032011-10-14T02:12:36.004-04:002011-10-14T02:12:36.004-04:00OK I have to ask - is Jane Edwards also Jane Eliza...OK I have to ask - is Jane Edwards also Jane Elizabeth Edwards ? Author of What Memoirs of Adopted Daughter's Tell Mothers ?Struggling Fulcrumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-85046757572457343072011-10-13T23:59:39.735-04:002011-10-13T23:59:39.735-04:00We know that jobs has dominated in the technology ...We know that jobs has dominated in the technology industry and he had made money out of his passion in making apple computers. But that doesn't guarantee family happiness. He made a mistake which is similar to what his father had done in the past. Sad to say that family relationship affects the emotional aspect of a child.ania@Divorce lawyershttp://divorcelawyersnow.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-15799774753408922282011-10-13T18:21:31.428-04:002011-10-13T18:21:31.428-04:00" Maybe a two-for-one lobotomy? Right there i..." Maybe a two-for-one lobotomy? Right there in the delivery room?"<br /><br />Ha ha ha ha ha!<br /><br />And they can use the kool-aid as the anesthesia!Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-78216682232925062472011-10-13T13:31:35.449-04:002011-10-13T13:31:35.449-04:00Interesting take on the dark side of Jobs. I'...Interesting take on the dark side of Jobs. I'm sure more stories are yet to come. The stories are rife in the industry.<br /><br />http://gawker.com/5847344/what-everyone-is-too-polite-to-say-about-steve-jobsSameOldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02824386757349786724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-80384142935872982462011-10-13T13:24:21.066-04:002011-10-13T13:24:21.066-04:00Robin, I agree with you (now) - how could we adopt...Robin, I agree with you (now) - how could we adoptees ever part with our child? But, when I was in college and my aparents' "biological" child got pregnant at 19, I advised her to place him for adoption. Thank God she didn't listen to me!! <br /><br />But, similar to children of divorce who end up divorcing (much pain and child abandonment there, too - how could they continue that tradition?), we are just indoctrinated to think it can be the "better" choice. [Full disclosure: my first marriage ended in divorce, so I know of which I speak.]Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06366141565010190668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45118401581777219202011-10-13T12:10:54.332-04:002011-10-13T12:10:54.332-04:00Lorraine wrote:"And the whole surrender of th...Lorraine wrote:"And the whole surrender of the boy who would become Jobs to adoption seemed unnecessary. It was the worst of times."<br /><br />I totally agree with that. And for the whole pro-life community who is just jumping up and down with glee, I don't think abortion had anything to do with this story.<br /><br />I, too, noticed that Steve referred to his natural parents as his "real" parents though I had also read another interview where he said that his APs were his "real" parents. Adoption is full of so many confusing and conflicting feelings. What one thinks at one time isn't what s/he thinks at another.<br /><br />It never ceases to amaze me when an adoptee abandons his own child. As an adoptee I felt much less likely to do something like that. And it is obvious that Steve Jobs was highly affected by being adopted as shown by his searching when still a teen.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-85267222897713177432011-10-13T10:14:51.636-04:002011-10-13T10:14:51.636-04:00If I'm not mistaken when watching some of the ...If I'm not mistaken when watching some of the coverage of Jobs death I saw a quote by him about thinking it was all about nuture but changing his mind and giving credit to nature.Janetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-14238001788107111202011-10-13T09:32:45.574-04:002011-10-13T09:32:45.574-04:00I'm so glad to hear that Steve Jobs' fathe...I'm so glad to hear that Steve Jobs' father reached out to him! Makes my day. :)<br /><br />"I think any label other than mother is disgusting."<br /><br />I agree, now, but growing up, my aparents (and the whole of society) indoctrinated me with such terms as "chosen" and "biological parents". I even thanked a birth mother friend for "giving the baby a better life." Talk about brainwashing!! (God bless her, she didn't smack me, she loved me more and explained the hole in every mother's heart for her child - until then, I thought I was the only one with the hole.)<br /><br />It is reprehensible to think that people (who know better, some who don't) insist that mothers "forget" about the baby they bore (perhaps a free lobotomy with every relinquishment would help), and insist to adoptees that they are nothing more than a shiftable commodity, one that should adapt to any surroundings, as "your biological mother was just the woman who gave birth to you." Maybe a two-for-one lobotomy? Right there in the delivery room?<br /><br />Thanks to the mothers here who do so much to help me feel connected in this world. Jane and Lorraine and all the others - you are so precious.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06366141565010190668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-92043378819275150602011-10-13T09:04:49.140-04:002011-10-13T09:04:49.140-04:00Added to the blog this morning:
The whole story t...Added to the blog this morning:<br /><br />The whole story takes on the air of a Greek tragedy; Jandali reached out to his son through the filter of email; Jobs responded in kind, but barely. And the whole surrender of the boy who would become Jobs to adoption seemed unnecessary. It was the worst of times.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-73938169232252072712011-10-12T22:43:27.099-04:002011-10-12T22:43:27.099-04:00These days adopting can require serious amounts of...These days adopting can require serious amounts of money money so I am guessing adoptive parents are on average, wealthier, more educated and older than they were 50+ years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-17887881930718624042011-10-12T16:42:16.958-04:002011-10-12T16:42:16.958-04:00Jane said, "A pox on those who told the young...Jane said, "A pox on those who told the young couples that marriage would never work and they should give up their babies and go their separate ways."<br /><br />Couldn't have said it better myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-42408099012240195102011-10-12T14:07:11.742-04:002011-10-12T14:07:11.742-04:00The whole thing is nuts. First, it really isn'...The whole thing is nuts. First, it really isn't a new or different tale - just one with some famous faces. My daughter was supposed to have been adopted by educated people, that was the only thing they let me have any say in.... she was adopted by a 3rd or 4th grade drop out and a soldier - barely with high school. Nothing on the soldier. The thing is, it amazes me that people in the mainstream are totally unaware that this is normal. Definitely insane.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815710859859029536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-81677318259728174922011-10-12T13:49:44.790-04:002011-10-12T13:49:44.790-04:00Something that's noted in the media but not co...Something that's noted in the media but not commented on is that Jobs' parents married after he was given up. Through my involvement in adoption, I've noticed that 20 to 25 percent of couples who gave up children later married each other. In most of these cases, the couples remained married for many years. <br /><br />A pox on those who told the young couples that marriage would never work and they should give up their babies and go their separate ways.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669797756463841249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-88756623289005289182011-10-12T12:59:14.075-04:002011-10-12T12:59:14.075-04:00I READ YOUR BLOG A FEW minutes ago, Mirah, and I a...I READ YOUR BLOG A FEW minutes ago, Mirah, and I agree with you completely.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-451420528271353152011-10-12T12:39:07.729-04:002011-10-12T12:39:07.729-04:00What has been during me nuts about Steve Jobs'...What has been during me nuts about Steve Jobs' death is the exploitation of it for the pro-life agenda. I blogged about. Here's a link: http://familypreservation.blogspot.com/2011/10/let-steve-jobs-rest-in-peace.html I will cross link to this post on mine.Mirah Ribenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-3870751375798322252011-10-12T12:37:55.329-04:002011-10-12T12:37:55.329-04:00I think any lable other than mother is disgusting....I think any lable other than mother is disgusting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14264990300619507135noreply@blogger.com