tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post4320525190272215512..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: After Losing Freedom, Immigrants Lose Their ChildrenLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-24706440202345307152009-05-04T21:05:00.000-04:002009-05-04T21:05:00.000-04:00ooops! yes Lorraine I lost my son in 1966 and have...ooops! yes Lorraine I lost my son in 1966 and have more on my mind about exploitation of immigrants for children by adoption. It's hard for me to understand why it isn't the business owners who hire the undocumented workers who go to jail, and not the immigrants. If this were the case the New York Jails would be filled up with business owners and landlords. In fact New York city could open a new jail and fill it up in less than a New York minute. The undocumented workers who work in the laundromat around the corner from me live in their car and the owner of the laundromat would never go to jail if there were a raid. <br />I grew up in South St. Louis county, was pregnant out of wedlock there, and was escorted out of town in silence to Chicago to live with my Aunt and have the nasty adoption experience. The only good part is the agency reunited me with my son in 1986. <br />So I will be sending a letter to the Missouri Governor, Attorney General and President Obama as this makes me cringe also!Unsealed Initiative New York Adoptee Rightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08768275100293874008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-66461588103335389892009-05-03T11:47:00.000-04:002009-05-03T11:47:00.000-04:00Oy, Joyce, I believe you mean you lost your son in...Oy, Joyce, I believe you mean you lost your son in 1966...one of the many of us who are very out of the closet!Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-80025801064201542472009-05-02T22:27:00.000-04:002009-05-02T22:27:00.000-04:00I hope Encarnacion is successful in the courts to ...I hope Encarnacion is successful in the courts to regain custody of her son and that the usual short adoption revocation periods applied in the U.S.can be set aside. Some U.S. states allow no time to revoke a consent and others 15 to 45 days. <br />How much knowledge of the adoption<br />process do immigrants have? I wonder at what point Encarnacion learned her son's birth certificate would be sealed and because Missouri is a closed record state her son's birth certificate will be sealed forever. Now is a good time if possible to bring attention not only to the exploitation of immigrants for their children but also to the harsh reality that not even when her son turns 18 will he have the right to a copy of his own birth certificate. For those of us in the reform movement we <br />recognize the discrimination and unfairness of sealed record laws but, some are just naive and don't<br />grasp the meaning of what this denial of rights is like for adoptees. In my opinion sealing birth certificates should be a categorized as a violation of human rights. This is a great loss <br />for this young mother with a life long sentence of grief, sorrow and pain. <br />Joyce Bahr, a mother who lost her son to adoption in 1986 and was reunited in 1986.Unsealed Initiative New York Adoptee Rightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08768275100293874008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-11058309836611693252009-04-30T16:58:00.000-04:002009-04-30T16:58:00.000-04:00Email send to May 1st Immigration March organizers...Email send to May 1st Immigration March organizers nationwide;<br /><br />United in the struggle to reunite son with birth mother <br /><br />Here’s a particular case that needs remedy and a united effort to bring justice. While thousands of immigrants and supporters prepare to march for immigration reform throughout the nation keep in mind this case, that was reported by the New York Times on April 22, 2009. It was just brought to my attention a few days ago by a long time friend from Guatemala, who asked me if I could help in the effort to reunite Carlos with his birth mother. <br />The New York Times article about Encarnación Bail Romero, a Guatemalan who was arrested by USICE near Carthage, Mo. when they raided a poultry processing plant two years ago calls for justice. Her son Carlos was taken and adopted by a couple while Encarnación an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala awaits deportation. <br />When adoption papers arrived where Encarnación was kept by USICE. She managed to write a letter with the help of a detained Mexican immigrant, a guard and an English-speaking Guatemalan visitor where she was detained, "I do not want my son to be adopted by anyone," she scrawled on a sheet of notebook paper on Oct. 28, 2007. "I would prefer that he be placed in foster care until I am not in jail any longer. I would like to have visitation with my son." (Birth Mother, First Mother Forum) <br />What kind of judges decide to allow adoption of a child when the mother is awaiting deportation? Well Judge David C. Dally of Circuit Court in Jasper County who said in a decree, the couple made a comfortable living, had rearranged their lives and work schedules to provide Carlos a stable home, and had support from their extended family. By contrast, Judge Dally said, Ms. Bail had little to offer. “The only certainties in the biological mother’s future,” he wrote, “is that she will remain incarcerated until next year, and that she will be deported thereafter.” <br />The worst part, Judge David C. Dally failed to order USICE to bring <br />Encarnación to his court during the adoption proceedings. Judge Dally made Carlos seemed like he was on the auction block. <br />It appears that Judge Dally took it upon himself to terminate Encarnación’s parental rights with out due process. Encarnación has not been convicted of child abuse, child neglect, or any type of dangerous criminal activity. No other decision from any court terminated her parental rights. How did Judge Dally come to his decision? A miscarriage of justice? <br />I’m providing the links of the New York Times and Birth Mother, First Mother Forum where articles are published and appeared. <br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/us/23children.html <br /><br />http://www.firstmotherforum.com/<br /><br />http://la.indymedia.org/news/2009/04/226563.php <br /><br />Don’t hesitate to circulate. <br />Respectfully, <br /><br />H. Nelson Goodson <br />Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA<br /><br />April 30, 2009 <br /><br />"Words conveyed by wisdom and truth influence inevitable change" H. Nelson Goodson <br /><br />Check out H. Nelson Goodson's profile and blog: <br /><br />http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/100261205343039196975 <br /><br />http://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/ <br /><br />Twitter: http://twitter.com/hng2wiusaH. Nelson Goodsonhttp://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-15563075808497391702009-04-29T23:17:00.000-04:002009-04-29T23:17:00.000-04:00Our country invited immigrants here
to work for le...Our country invited immigrants here<br />to work for less money and as George Bush put it, "do the jobs Americans won't do" and sadly enough some Americans are too lazy to work from the pot they are smoking and whatever else they are addicted from that was imported from countries these immigrants came from. So we invite them here to work for peanuts,<br />convict them and steal their children for adoption.Will the ACLU step in to help this immigrant get her baby back? Highly unlikely because the ACLU <br />is not for the rights of mothers forced to surrender.--this is disgusting and our country should be ashamed!Unsealed Initiative New York Adoptee Rightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08768275100293874008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-31355780969967206022009-04-29T11:05:00.000-04:002009-04-29T11:05:00.000-04:00I personally know about this case. I am not the o...I personally know about this case. I am not the one who adopted him but I took care of this child for about 6 months. The aunts did not take care of him at all. But a few things that the New York Times don't say or this article, is the condition of Carlos when his mother was arrested. At six months old they had already taken him off of formula, he was drinking 1% milk. He had no vaccinations, he also had eczema which just bleed and bleed because it wasn't being taken care of. And he hadn't seen a doctor since he was born. And the saddest part the mother was receiving WIC and medicaid. But the aunt said, "To my sister working over time was more important than taking care of her son." <br /><br />And what I don't understand is how immigration let this lady out when the adoption was already finalized. And the last date is put in an appeal was at the beginning of April and there was no appeal entered in the courts of Jasper County. And the mother of this child has already been deported, that is why she was in jail for about two years. There were punishing her for reentering the USA illegally again. And the saddest part she has two other children in Guatemala. My only question to her is why are you not returning to Guatemala to take care of the other children that you have? Would it be because the other children or her would have the chance to become legal someday through Carlos?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-34079656022341852142009-04-24T19:34:00.000-04:002009-04-24T19:34:00.000-04:00Actually, I partially blamed the do-gooder teacher...Actually, I partially blamed the do-gooder teacher aide here playing social engineer. On what basis was Carlos offered for adoption? By her? The mother stated specifically that she wished him to remain in foster care until she was released. You can't get more clear than "I don't want my son to be adopted by anyone." Then letters arrive for Mrs. Bail but she can't answer them because she doesn't speak English. This is referred to as "due process" by the a-parents' laywer. What a crock. Obviously, I'm not the type to automatically bray for children to be returned to their natural mothers. But in this case, he should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-90109538687790359482009-04-24T15:28:00.000-04:002009-04-24T15:28:00.000-04:00Improper Adoptee, welcome back! We had wondered w...Improper Adoptee, welcome back! We had wondered what was going on with you! <br /><br />And it works both ways--we've learned a great deal from our readers, and appreciate everyone's spreading the word about our blog.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958887097090820238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-32931497164970633582009-04-24T11:30:00.001-04:002009-04-24T11:30:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Improper Adopteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04460201280334904431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-56554448740101265932009-04-23T20:59:00.000-04:002009-04-23T20:59:00.000-04:00And by that you mean in every unethical adoption, ...And by that you mean in every unethical adoption, not every adoption, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-74450062311644130162009-04-23T18:28:00.000-04:002009-04-23T18:28:00.000-04:00"What are they ging to tell him about his mother?"..."What are they ging to tell him about his mother?" <br /><br />Well likely they are going to tell him he is an orphan and how lucky he is that they saved him or they will tell him "his mother loved him so much she gave him away to have a better life" and they will hope and pray they got a 'grateful adoptee" who will ask no more questions.<br />Basically the same damn story every adoptee gets from their abductors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-4662887723054062412009-04-23T16:27:00.000-04:002009-04-23T16:27:00.000-04:00This is where the PAPS have to ask the tough quest...This is where the PAPS have to ask the tough questions and LOOK and SEE, not just see what they want to see. Why wouldn't you ask the questions? I guess if you're all foaming at the mouth about illegal aliens every day like Lou Dobbs you might think of Mrs. Bail and her ilk as just plain bad. . .and that her son would be better off without her. Ironically, this problem stems from people just trying to make a better life for themselves. Preposterous. Outright child theft. What are they going to tell him about his mother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-91360607316792180852009-04-23T14:49:00.000-04:002009-04-23T14:49:00.000-04:00I read this and was appalled.
And no, we haven't...I read this and was appalled. <br /><br />And no, we haven't come very far in all of these years. Poverty and a lack of support are still valid reasons to take a child away from his mother. Besides in this woman's case she is a criminal.<br /><br />Sad to say but I truly believe that most people feel this way. Adoption is a happy story, right? That's what I hear all of the time. Makes me cringe.Angellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400662014485775139noreply@blogger.com