tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post5892926586498477881..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Hillary wrong on adoption, but Trump/Pence ticket threatens women's rightsLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-87811562043289199692016-10-16T01:15:50.116-04:002016-10-16T01:15:50.116-04:00For the record, i did not say that voting for the ...For the record, i did not say that voting for the least worst candidate is "thankless resignation." Additionally i'm cool with everyone voting or not as they see fit - it's not for me to judge.<br />I confess that i think that voting for vegetables IS absurd !! :)<br /><br />I don't identify with Hillary, other in that she seems a reasonable human to me; but other than that, my life is nothing like hers.<br /><br />Jane I agree with you, in my opinion Hillary seems the best candidate. I also agree with your statement, "To say Hillary is the least worst candidate suggests that she is just one step above The Donald." That resignation itself seems thankless and that was my point. Doesn't matter, really, Hillary isn't hearing my thoughts for or against her one way or the other. I don't equate my vote with my voice; for instance, my vote for a candidate is not a blank check for that candidate to do whatever. I just do the best that i can to my understanding. I dunno what more can be asked of a vote.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571106249207987994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-79127953278702801592016-10-15T15:30:36.810-04:002016-10-15T15:30:36.810-04:00Trump is arsenic. Hillary is broccoli (or cabbage ...Trump is arsenic. Hillary is broccoli (or cabbage or Brussel sprouts). You may not like the taste but beyond not killing you, it's good for you.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-22561645797176219962016-10-15T15:15:04.385-04:002016-10-15T15:15:04.385-04:00"To say Hillary is the least worst candidate ..."To say Hillary is the least worst candidate suggests that she is just one step above The Donald. That's absurd." You might very well think that. I would disagree.<br /><br />If you dislike the taste of both cabbage (Trump) and broccoli (Hillary), but prefer broccoli to cabbage, then broccoli is your least worst. The extent to which you prefer broccoli is not the point. There *are* other vegetables, including other cruciferous ones. But long as they aren't on the menu you can't have them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-11503605473649469662016-10-15T14:20:20.911-04:002016-10-15T14:20:20.911-04:00To say Hillary is the least worst candidate sugges...To say Hillary is the least worst candidate suggests that she is just one step above The Donald. This is absurd. Hillary has not denigrated Mexicans, Muslims, Jews, African-Americans, mid-easterners, women or people with disabilities. She has not condoned torture. She has never filed for bankruptcy or failed to pay workers. She has never sexually assaulted anyone. She has never encouraged violence by her supporters or by anyone else. She does not view the world as a big casino where you lie and cheat to accumulate wealth. <br /><br />To call Hillary the least worst candidate is like saying democracy is the least worst form of government or broccoli is the least worst food.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-62078610296492683942016-10-15T13:57:55.304-04:002016-10-15T13:57:55.304-04:00I am voting for Hillary, but not because she is th...I am voting for Hillary, but not because she is the least worst candidate but because she is the BEST candidate. I disagree with her on some issues (like adoption) and I'm disappointed with her for some of the things she's done (like take $$$ from Wall Street) but there is nobody who threw their hat in the ring who is anywhere close to her in integrity, experience, intelligence, ability to grasp the issues, and get things done. <br /><br />I defy anyone to suggest that Rubio, Cruz, Christie, etc had anywhere close to Hillary's competence. I supported Bernie in the primary, not because I thought he had the experience or ability to get things done to be president but because I wanted to nudge Hillary to the left. That has been accomplished. That's why Bernie is campaigning for her. <br /><br />I think that a lot of anti-Hillary stuff comes from misogynists, both men and women. Hillary is not Michelle Obama, Laura Bush, Jackie Kennedy, etc, attractive and competent but always willing to play a secondary role. Hillary has gotten into the ring, has taken repeated blows below the belt, and still stands strong. Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-35457773228082565352016-10-15T08:08:43.320-04:002016-10-15T08:08:43.320-04:00Yes, as one who is voting for the least worst cand...Yes, as one who is voting for the least worst candidate, what I think is worse is not voting at all which I have heard some people say is their choice since they do not really like either one. That is just throwing away your vote and perhaps helping to elect the one you consider the worst.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-25718850801163358852016-10-14T21:02:54.715-04:002016-10-14T21:02:54.715-04:00I don't think voting for the candidate you con...I don't think voting for the candidate you consider the least worst is "thankless resignation". It is common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-57140637726534742692016-10-13T16:03:06.619-04:002016-10-13T16:03:06.619-04:00The children that need adoption aren't adopted...The children that need adoption aren't adopted. Seriously why do people need a healthy white newborn? What about the 15 yo in a group home praying for a family? That's the child that should get adopted. And family preservation should always be first. Always. Many kids can do fine at home with services instead of being in the system. A lot of foster parents of the littles ones really want to adopt and will do anything to get what they want. Including lying and hiring lawyers. Heartbrokennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-28107343634907202262016-10-13T09:29:36.149-04:002016-10-13T09:29:36.149-04:00I do not identify with Hillary, not having a life ...I do not identify with Hillary, not having a life remotely similar to hers in any way, so while I will vote for her, I do not feel her pain the way those of you who have worked in male-dominated fields have. I understand it, I believe in equality, but I do not feel any special bond with Hillary. I do hope and pray she wins.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-81148212545620580652016-10-12T21:50:48.872-04:002016-10-12T21:50:48.872-04:00Kaisa, I too feel incredibly emotional about Hilla...Kaisa, I too feel incredibly emotional about Hillary, for all the hits she has taken in her life. As someone who broke into the men's room in journalism (covering hard news, now women's new--lord that sounds so last century!) I feel the attacks on her somewhat personally. I remember trying to get a similar job after I had Jane, trying to explain my career interruptus. It was hell and kept me from at least one job I might have gotten otherwise. <br /><br />For reasons like that, and for the criticisms I've taken myself, I feel a special empathy to her and proudly wear my Hillary pin. See smiley emoji here. <br />Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45609239151500854762016-10-12T18:35:34.188-04:002016-10-12T18:35:34.188-04:00I think Hillary gets a bad rap, undeservedly. She ...I think Hillary gets a bad rap, undeservedly. She has led a life of public service and for that i commend her. She has made mistakes but they have not been mistakes of omission and i commend her for that, too. It is difficult to be in a position to wield as much power as she did as a Senator and Secretary of State without making mistakes but i'm glad that they are of taking the wrong action instead of taking no action at all, or of turning a blind eye.<br /><br />I agree that women can be just as cruel as men. I have no illusions that Hillary is not a politician, of course she is. But if she were a man i think her approval rating would be higher than Obama's is right now. Women are held to a different standard. I'm guilty of having held her to a different standard but after watching the Democratic National Convention i was motivated to look into her track record more closely and i realize that I was wrong for doing so. She has been under more scrutiny than most and has held up to that scrutiny, and continues to serve the public no matter the personal attacks. I may not agree with everything she does but i see that she holds herself accountable in the ways that i see as important; I can't imagine that i'd require anything more of myself if i had the inclination or gumption to be a political leader.<br /><br />I feel a palpable empathy for Hillary for taking the hits she does including the thankless resignation of those whose only compliment to her is that she is "better than the alternative" - every time one of my family members chooses to focus their wrath for Hillary onto me simply because i am a woman, and more liberal than they are (despite my lifestyle and actions in practice proving to be much more conservative!)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571106249207987994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-31145150369695049492016-10-12T17:41:06.802-04:002016-10-12T17:41:06.802-04:00I am voting for Hillary because she is a strong in...I am voting for Hillary because she is a strong individual who is for health insurance for all, will give us a reasonable immigration policy while helping with the world refugee crisis, will further women's rights in many areas, including pay inequity like no man ever has, and will carry out policies that are for the good of the country, and understands global issues, such as the Middle East as well as climate change science. Hillary has withstood the slings and arrows of the GOP for DECADES and that is why so many feel lukewarm about her. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-79506319638955665062016-10-12T15:40:20.699-04:002016-10-12T15:40:20.699-04:00Single issue voting is always problematic and limi...Single issue voting is always problematic and limiting no matter what your issue is. The is clearly illustrated by fanatical right to life voters who will vote for a candidate that harms women and children in every other way if they think he is for saving the unborn.<br /><br />It would be very hard to find a candidate for any office who does not think "adoption will always be needed" for some children in specific untenable family situations. Foster care and the system are a terrible mess, and mistakes are made both because they put into bad foster homes or left in bad biological families. Never removing children from biological relatives would not make the problems go away. There is not one all-good solution. Abolishing all adoption is not the answer; reforming how the few needed adoptions are done is.<br /><br />As to presidential candidates, I am afraid this year for me it is picking the lesser evil which would be Hillary, because Trump is a sick clown and egotistical woman-hating monster. I am not enthused about voting for Hillary, wish the Dems had a stronger candidate, and do not see women in general as leaders any less prone to cruelty and stupidity than men. Remember Margaret Thatcher? I think Hillary will be an OK president, I will vote for her, but her views of adoption have little to do with that choice. We qave money to the Dems, but it is because we are terrified of Trump winning. I was excited about Obama. This time I am just worried and disgusted.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-85063800292133711922016-10-12T14:49:44.525-04:002016-10-12T14:49:44.525-04:00Well done post, and I agree completely. Thank you...Well done post, and I agree completely. Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01425922119386519967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-60188044542237094582016-10-11T05:50:47.627-04:002016-10-11T05:50:47.627-04:00I was reading along happily until I got to the sta...I was reading along happily until I got to the statement " that adoption will always be needed ".The institution of " adoption " the legal passing of a child from one family to another is not needed at all. We as a caring community, can care for kids without that particular institution. You cannot graft children. Spend all that money on fixing the graft instead of growing a healthy child.Jan Louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275804204213681445noreply@blogger.com