tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post6709455733170905443..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Why I won't miss Barbara Walters Lorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-67933045616107866862022-12-31T00:53:56.264-05:002022-12-31T00:53:56.264-05:00Quite frankly, she sounds like another nasty Ellen...Quite frankly, she sounds like another nasty EllenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-13523021984879795052022-08-02T14:37:56.351-04:002022-08-02T14:37:56.351-04:00I don't know what you read but Barbara's h...I don't know what you read but Barbara's husband wanted to adopt a boy and they decided that's what they wanted to do. Then they visited friends with a little girl who happened to gush over the joys of having a daughter and after that Barbara and Lee notified the agency that they wanted to adopt whichever baby became available regardless of sex. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-38298267073250810512022-08-02T14:33:41.190-04:002022-08-02T14:33:41.190-04:00Of course Walters had a choice. Jackie was a child...Of course Walters had a choice. Jackie was a child for many years before she "made it clear" that she didn't like celebrity. And Jackie was not at "wilderness school", she was in rehab at the age of 16Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-9882451044275435572020-10-20T15:09:55.860-04:002020-10-20T15:09:55.860-04:00I am a closed records adoptee with similar circums...I am a closed records adoptee with similar circumstances to Jackie, and I have to this day found no peace. I have worked hard in the wrong directions, I became an alcoholic late in life, I've been depressed all my life, I feel empty inside, I feel like half of me is an artificial tree (the adopted part of me - fake name, fake everything) and the other half of me is a dead tree (the natural part of me torn from my roots like a dead rootless tree - aborted inside). And I still feel suicidal to this day. And everybody just LAUGHS AND SNAPS AND TELLS ME TO BE GRATEFUL! Well, I didn't look into being adopted for 40 years and still worked hard in the wrong directions, did take the conservative approach and try to soldier on and that didn't work so try another one! Closed records adoptees' issues are the next civil rights issue. We need REAL help, not phony baloney advice from shallow people! samara morgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-28346606643331974872018-06-30T12:15:39.230-04:002018-06-30T12:15:39.230-04:00PS: There are however a number of pictures on lin...PS: There are however a number of pictures on line that appear to show that Barbara and her daughter, Jacqueline, today have a good relationship. And in a few moments of looking I did not find her. <br />Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-33825150169136075462018-06-30T12:06:26.646-04:002018-06-30T12:06:26.646-04:00Do some digging on the internet and you will proba...Do some digging on the internet and you will probably find her. She appeared in a television special with her daughter and it was striking how much they resembled one another--hair, dangling earrings, overall style. You would never not have thought they were mother and daughter when they were together. She was living in the country and far from the corporate world of Barbara Walters. That must have seemed all so foreign to her, even as she knew no different. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-47077866393829774002018-06-29T22:35:45.795-04:002018-06-29T22:35:45.795-04:00Does anybody know who Jacqueline's biological ...Does anybody know who Jacqueline's biological mother is? I was looking for the segment and stumbled upon this article. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06750553016157943464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-7834612703331847292014-05-23T09:06:29.300-04:002014-05-23T09:06:29.300-04:00Renee, I understand, and I do remember something a...Renee, I understand, and I do remember something about Pax--forgot that it was his mother who was still alive and well. Of course we would all like to see some of these famous celebs who are adoptive parents come out big time for opening sealed records. But many of them, I suspect, today know who the parents are, and don't feel any connection to the plight of those whose histories are shackled by sealed records. Lorraine Duskyhttp://www.firstmotherforum.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-40109667438005485522014-05-22T23:36:25.483-04:002014-05-22T23:36:25.483-04:00Lorraine...not sure how I feel about the adoptions...Lorraine...not sure how I feel about the adoptions of Jolie-Pitt. There has been questions specifically about Pax and keeping his first mother apart now that she is drug free. But any international adoption is suspect considering the brokers facilitating the adoptions and the talk of cash donations... I think Jolie does a lot of good with her fame, but would like to see her come forward for adoptees now that she has personal experience knowing how important medical histories can be in prevention and diagnosis of inheritable diseases. Reneenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-32860791210703302982014-05-20T21:43:27.093-04:002014-05-20T21:43:27.093-04:00And as they get older there will also be the same ...And as they get older there will also be the same focus on the biological children of Pitt and Jolie, at least some of whom will follow their parents into the acting profession. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-46155263932781887672014-05-20T21:16:43.843-04:002014-05-20T21:16:43.843-04:00Brangelina and all six of their kids go months and...Brangelina and all six of their kids go months and months without getting "papped" -- I'm inclined to believe them when they say they try (and mostly succeed) in keeping their kids out of the press. <br /><br />Photos of any of the Jolie-Pitts sell for big bucks, so *occasiobally* getting papped is likely unavoidable.Cayleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01734148340358452640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-25198274084952766092014-05-20T16:07:55.796-04:002014-05-20T16:07:55.796-04:00That is absolutely true. I thought it was glaringl...That is absolutely true. I thought it was glaringly obvious how much more media interest there was in Suri Cruise since she is a bio-kid. For all that this culture pays lip service to adoptees being just the same as bios, I thought it was clear that Suri is treated like she is the couple's REAL child.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-72717282019775116162014-05-20T16:03:55.306-04:002014-05-20T16:03:55.306-04:00While we're on the subject of famous adoptees ...While we're on the subject of famous adoptees and APs, I came across this in People magazine. It's somewhat off topic but I found it illuminating. People Magazine, November 25, 2013, page 56 under the caption "WHO SAID IT?". This is a quote by Chrisann Brennan from her book "The Bite in the Apple" about Steve Jobs. "His smile had the glint of a pirate with treasure in his hull. There was a PROFOUND SADNESS {emphasis added} about him that drew me in." Primal wound, perhaps?Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-2545240474079769722014-05-19T22:56:44.336-04:002014-05-19T22:56:44.336-04:00Maddox is most likely choosing his own hair style ...Maddox is most likely choosing his own hair style after being forced to wear his hair in the faux Asian style, lacquered so it stands up straight. It reminds me of Mickey Rooney playing an Asian in Breakfast at Tiffany's. <br /><br />The PP's are not photographing A, B, and kids as they come out a door; the Pitts' are walking down the street. The People caption usually says something like Angelina, Brad, and kids on a outing. A very public outing. Brad is usually carrying a couple of kids. How far do you think he can do that? People with six kids don't usually take them all out at once. <br /><br />Angelina is clearly a publicity hound. I recall her saying she wanted to adopt a child from each continent.For what purpose other than publicity. Every time she gathered up one of the children from abroad, she had oodles of publicity. Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-41575185320982664722014-05-19T22:04:47.404-04:002014-05-19T22:04:47.404-04:00True. Look at poor Connor & Isabella Cruise. ...True. Look at poor Connor & Isabella Cruise. Backburnered for the bio kiddos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-48942292289431721492014-05-19T22:01:12.722-04:002014-05-19T22:01:12.722-04:00Mommy Dearest Joan Crawford sent Christina AWAY to...Mommy Dearest Joan Crawford sent Christina AWAY too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-31096566693209039682014-05-19T21:30:37.796-04:002014-05-19T21:30:37.796-04:00Jane: The paparazzi hound Angelina and Brad. Wait ...Jane: The paparazzi hound Angelina and Brad. Wait outside the door. Follow them. <i>Hound them. </i>They do not need to call anyone to get those pictures. <br /><br />If Maddox is 12, I doubt they can control his hair style. It's almost certainly his choice as to how he wants to wear his hair. <br />I know how famous people are hounded. When I was at the NYTimes myself, I was assigned to stand outside the door of Jackie's apartment building the day the news of he plans to marry Ari was made known. She came out tightly holding John-John's and Caroline's hands and disappeared into a car. But pictures were taken, though not by me; I was supposed to get a quote. Jackie did what she could but papprazzi are even worse today. For a single pictures of of certain celebs, photographers get thousands. <br /><br />Photographers sit in cars outside the homes of famous people waiting for them to emerge. Shoot through fences. Shots of Angelina and Brad are very very sale-able. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-35640951817596776232014-05-19T21:20:53.434-04:002014-05-19T21:20:53.434-04:00Lorraine,
I beg to differ. Yes, Angelina's pho...Lorraine,<br />I beg to differ. Yes, Angelina's photos are taken by paparazzi but what Mom goes shopping with six kids and hubby in tow? And how do the paparazzi know where she is going to be? Just going about their business? Strolling down Fifth Avenue, the Champs-'Elysees, etc in the middle of the day. There's a picture of Jolie, Brad, and kids in every edition of People that I see.<br /><br />If they didn't want to show off the kids, they'd be in a limousine. Jackie Kennedy kept her kids away from photographers for decades and no one was more hunted by the paparazzi that the Kennedy's.<br /><br />Let's see whether Maddox continues to be in the pictures now that he is 12. I notice that they changed his hair style from a pseudo-Cambodian style to an American one. <br /><br />I like Brad, or used to anyway. I find Jolie repulsive. Puffy lips, plastic smile, Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-67237656950754378752014-05-19T18:27:10.669-04:002014-05-19T18:27:10.669-04:00I dimly remember that Baba Wawa show with us in th...I dimly remember that Baba Wawa show with us in the audience, and how infuriating she was. Needless to say I never liked her and did not follow her career or watch her shows. Nice that her daughter did search and it was a decent reunion.maryannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-46808560516723933692014-05-19T17:56:23.572-04:002014-05-19T17:56:23.572-04:00As for Walters, she was never a "star" t...As for Walters, she was never a "star" that commanded covers of magazines, paparazzi following her hoping for a "get." I mean, she managed to have a secret affair for a married senator, Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, and he was African-American--and no one knew until she wrote it. So whether or not she did or did not exploit the daughter, to me, is not non starter. She didn't really have the wow power of the movie stars. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-78811880063026848632014-05-19T17:51:28.396-04:002014-05-19T17:51:28.396-04:00Jane:
We having to agree to disagree on Angelina ...Jane: <br />We having to agree to disagree on Angelina Jolie--I haven't seen any pictures of the kids that weren't taken by paparazzi when the family was simply going about their business. They are all unposed and simply on the street. I don't call that exploration. It is just another day in the life of being famous. For some reason Jolie and Pitt and their kids do not bother me, and I admit I like her and him in the movies. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45030978539294979472014-05-19T17:22:43.546-04:002014-05-19T17:22:43.546-04:00Tiffany said: 'just when I was quite certain t...Tiffany said: 'just when I was quite certain the depths of my disrespect had been fully reached, and I found I could dig further.'<br /><br />That made me chuckle!Cherrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-68309826471800098322014-05-19T16:33:21.603-04:002014-05-19T16:33:21.603-04:00Google celebs from any time and you'll find ma...Google celebs from any time and you'll find many placed their adopted children front and center in front of the cameras when they were little and cute. Joan Crawford had the press come to Christina's and Christopher's birthday parties. When there cuteness faded, she adopted two girls from the Tennessee Children's Home and passed them off to the media as twins. The older children were sent to boarding schools.<br /><br />Ditto Michael Reagan when he passed the photogenic stage. <br /><br />I can't recall BW placing her daughter in front of the camera but if she didn't it may have had more to do with the child's inability to sit still or lack of attractiveness. <br /><br />Celeb usually stop placing their kids in front of cameras before they're old enough to go to treatment programs. The pictures stop when the kids are about 12, not cute and often irritable. I suspect we'll see less of Madox in AJ's pictures in the next few years. Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45088366499702994342014-05-19T15:29:34.026-04:002014-05-19T15:29:34.026-04:00I've always been a Diane Sawyer fan, myself, a...I've always been a Diane Sawyer fan, myself, as well as Christiane Amanpour, although I know both of those, especially Amanpour, are in a different generation. Walters always came across as insincere to me, and I'm generally very good at reading people.<br /><br />I didn't know she had an adopted daughter. In all fairness, her quietness on that front might have been actual respect for her daughter's wish for privacy. Really, only she can possibly know that one and speculation is mere guesswork. It is disappointing that she used to speak out against open records, then when her daughter had a reunion, she simply stopped speaking out against them instead of speaking out FOR them. She has a powerful platform and could have used it to try to fix what she contributed to.<br /><br />As for The View, I have less than no interest in that show. I sincerely wish it would go away. It's embarrassing and frustrating to me that a powerful platform for women that could really tackle important problems and social issues is reduced to a catty gossip fest where the women have a history of attacking each other when the same viewpoint is not universally shared. And then they brought on Jenny McCarthy, just when I was quite certain the depths of my disrespect had been fully reached, and I found I could dig further.Tiffanynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-91712848461267703222014-05-19T14:41:20.577-04:002014-05-19T14:41:20.577-04:00Current Hollywood trends have been to exploit the ...Current Hollywood trends have been to exploit the children they adopt.... but in the 60s and 70s this was not so. Even "Mommy Dearest" was written after that time frame. Most celeb children that were involved in the "scene" such as Desi Jr, were in the business as well. The current theme is to tote your celeb child around, especially if the child is an adopted minority, to show how secure you are and how you are giving. BW did not do this, I am betting because of several reasons - a) her cultural base was upper class white, NY - which would have made that a horror to the entire family; b) her child was a "bad" child - drugs, alcohol and sex - enough to be an embarrasment; and c) because she was touted as a "woman for women" - which was in direct conflict with her behaviors with her child and her personal life.<br /><br />Just my thoughts.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815710859859029536noreply@blogger.com