tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post816538304005086471..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Adoptive Parents Decry UNICEF's Humanitarian Position about Adopting OverseasLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-66620755638247097052010-12-14T12:24:12.885-05:002010-12-14T12:24:12.885-05:00For more about Bartholet, please read:
Lies, Damn...For more about Bartholet, please read:<br /><br />Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics and Baby Selling?<br /><br />http://www.opednews.com/articles/Lies-Damned-Lies-Statist-by-Mirah-Riben-101209-205.htmlMirah Ribenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-21777749761526102242010-12-10T12:20:06.894-05:002010-12-10T12:20:06.894-05:00To believe that this one adoptive mother knows bet...To believe that this one adoptive mother knows better than a TEAM of experts with no ulterior motive other than the welfare of children who have been on the ground working with families in crisis for sixty years is absolutely preposterous! <br /><br />However - another blogger does just that: http://ethicsalarms.com/2010/12/08/unicefs-unethical-war-against-international-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-8539<br /><br />Bartholet is a law professor who has made it her goal to increase the adoption practices of her attorney colleagues who rely on the transfer of children for their livelihood. <br /><br />Bartholet is so blindly extreme in her position that she disregards ethnicity and winks and nods at baby selling!<br /><br />“Baby buying is generally not thought of as a serious evil in today’s world in other contexts. Commercial surrogacy is the institution in which true baby buying takes place systematically. Surrogacy contracts specify that the woman who provides pregnancy and childbirth services, and often her egg as well, will receive money in exchange for turning over the baby born, and terminating her parental rights. Commercial surrogacy is flourishing in the United States and many other countries…” http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1758-5899.2009.00001.x/full<br /><br />This is a vile, repugnant position for anyone who pretends to be acting in any child's best interest! These are the words of someone who sees children not as vulnerable human beings with rights, but rather as a COMMODITY to fill a demand with no regard for the what is best for the child at all.<br /><br />This woman should be ignored as a radical extremist profiteer.<br /><br />Mirah Riben, author, THE STORK MARKET: America's Multi-Billion Dollar Unregulated Adoption IndustryMirah Ribenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-62143104564567163052010-12-09T17:43:19.011-05:002010-12-09T17:43:19.011-05:00The Family Research Council urges an end to aborti...The Family Research Council urges an end to abortion and the adoption of all children born to single mothers which, the Council says gleefully, would result in about three million children being available for adoption each year. http://www.thedailyreporter.com/communities/coldwater/x556844305/Adoption-Good-bad-news<br /><br />If Elizabeth Bartholet has her way another several mill would arrive on our shores each year.<br /><br />Even Angelina Jolie couldn't adopt this many children.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669797756463841249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-64180070220490062472010-12-09T15:52:22.650-05:002010-12-09T15:52:22.650-05:00For Bartholet on Guatemalan adoption:
Slamming t...For Bartholet on Guatemalan adoption: <br /><br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201782.html" rel="nofollow">Slamming the Door on Adoption</a><br /><br />Does the woman ever even consider that the number of people like her contribute to the number of "available" children? Apparently not. <br /><br />Bartholet: <br />"In recent years, Guatemala has been a model for those who believe in adoption as a vehicle for providing homeless children with permanent, nurturing parents. It has released significant numbers of children to international adoption, many at young ages, before they suffered the kind of damage that results in attachment disorders and other life-altering limitations. Ironically, these policies are why Guatemala attracted the attention of UNICEF and other human rights organizations that, along with our State Department, have been pushing for adoption 'reform.'"<br /><br />She wrote this before the Guatemalan government relesased a report stating that half of the children's adoptions they looked into appear to have been the result of kidnapping or killing the mothers to get their children, who were then sold by soldiers to corrupt lawyers, who then presented them as "needy" and languishing in orphanages. To the unsuspecting and blinded Americans who wanted them, it all looked like they were doing a good thing.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-57514975647065006522010-12-09T10:02:18.592-05:002010-12-09T10:02:18.592-05:00@BD
"That Bartholet considers herself a femin...@BD<br />"That Bartholet considers herself a feminist, a liberal, and teaches civil rights is frightening."<br /><br />This is frightening and dangerous. I think of a feminist as someone who is pro-women. Encouraging a woman to give her child to strangers (and overseas no less) because she is poor or for any other reason sounds like the most anti-woman thing I can think of.<br /><br />Feminism had a positive image in the 60's and 70's and then somehow it developed a negative connotation. Now it seems to have been co-opted by the right. I have read that Ms. Sarah Palin considers herself a feminist.<br /><br />It is also quite telling that Elizabeth Bartholet went to such great lengths for ten years to have another pregnancy. Seems she really, really, really wanted her own bio-kid.<br /><br />And thank heavens Florence made mincemeat out of her. Wish I could have seen it :)Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45267900430684900302010-12-09T09:38:56.388-05:002010-12-09T09:38:56.388-05:00As I remember, it was not that many years ago that...As I remember, it was not that many years ago that Elizabeth Bartholet praised Guatemala as a model for international adoption. <br />Then she got pissed when adoption from Guatemala was shut down.<br /> <br />I can quite see why B.J Lifton cancelled. <br /><br />HaighaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-64230356235564827252010-12-09T08:45:31.015-05:002010-12-09T08:45:31.015-05:00Just an add: The day after I appeared with Barthol...Just an add: The day after I appeared with Bartholet on the McNeal-Lehrer Report on PBS, I was asked by the Today show to repeat the experience. I declined and suggested they get Florence. They did. Flo made mincemeat of her--always best for an adoptee to haggle/fight/argue with an know-it-all insufferable adoptive mother.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-66399438584665302562010-12-09T06:10:48.736-05:002010-12-09T06:10:48.736-05:00Marley, I am surprised Bartholet didn't get a ...Marley, I am surprised Bartholet didn't get a Demon in Adoption Award years ago. She has been on the dark side since she first opened her mouth some 20 years ago. I wonder how her "precious babies" are faring? It would be sweet justice if they got into adoption reform.Brenda Romanchikhttp://www.openadoptioninsight.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-42505354391569976792010-12-09T01:01:48.348-05:002010-12-09T01:01:48.348-05:00Horrendous opinions and position to take up.The bl...Horrendous opinions and position to take up.The blinkers are on,wonder why?Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17421069895155350144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-29345829892487339722010-12-08T22:32:36.455-05:002010-12-08T22:32:36.455-05:00Excuse the ad hominem attack, but Elizabeth Bartho...Excuse the ad hominem attack, but Elizabeth Bartholet is reprehensible hag. The wicked witch of adoption. I intended to nominate her for Demons of Adoption, but forgot about it. Next year should be perfect. She's sinking deeper into hell every day.<br /><br />Bartholet spoke at the NCFA conference in July (which I still need to blog about) and she even bothered them. That's how bad she is. (Well some of them!) <br /><br />She complained that not enough children are removed from their families and placed in foster care to be adopted. Especially not enough black kids. She declared that poor countries" empower their communities" by sending their kids off to be adopted in other countries. I was not the only person there who suffered from a WTF Moment.<br /><br />That Bartholet considers herself a feminist, a liberal, and teaches civil rights is frightening. She obviously has tenure. <br /><br />A few years ago BJ Lifton told me that she was scheduled to be on a panel with her, but when Bartholet found out who she'd have to appear with she cancelled. No doubt.Marley Greinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184124024369071862noreply@blogger.com