tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post8167027899885604377..comments2024-03-14T17:59:30.786-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Playing Politics with the Morning After PillLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-58271423057186020982011-12-15T12:59:09.491-05:002011-12-15T12:59:09.491-05:00Thank you Mary!
Someone said that Obama had to do...Thank you Mary!<br /><br />Someone said that Obama had to do this because he didn't want to anger the evangelical conservatives, but WTH, they aren't going to vote for him anyway. I countered with: But what about doing something to energize the base? <br /><br />It was my understanding that college infirmaries for years have given out emergency dosages of the pill to college students coming in need, and found out they worked to prevent pregnancy. <br /><br />And yes the cost is crazy! It is something like $35 when it should be no more than a few bucks (mostly for packaging and shipping) and still give Big Phrama enough profits. Keeping the cost high is like making condoms $20 apiece.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-53246463646793265502011-12-15T10:01:55.245-05:002011-12-15T10:01:55.245-05:00Plan B is nothing more than a high dose of oral co...Plan B is nothing more than a high dose of oral contraceptives. I worked at Planned Parenthood during the 1980's and we gave Ovral in a two step dose at minimal cost. It is outrageous what the pharmaceutical companies charge for this drug! And as for the administration's paternalistic stance I am sooooo disappointed.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320423373574684080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-50752940139397363342011-12-12T16:28:22.473-05:002011-12-12T16:28:22.473-05:00RU-486 is what is known as the abortion pill. It w...RU-486 is what is known as the abortion pill. It was developed in France and is considered a medical alternative to surgical abortion. It is available in the U.S. through Planned Parenthood and probably other medical providers. It can only be used under close medical supervision as it does come with significant risks and side effects including hemorrhaging. I think this is what Anon 4:21 was referring to. There have also been some fatalities associated with the drug. It is a different combination of drugs than what is used in Plan B (or emergency contraception) and will never be approved for OTC use.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-47746124340187726872011-12-12T13:21:23.587-05:002011-12-12T13:21:23.587-05:00I see not much daylight between eugenics and force...I see not much daylight between eugenics and forced pregnancy/abortion for the under 17 (especially nice white girls who can produce for the market). That is exactly what Obama's stupid non birth control policy enforces.SameOldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02824386757349786724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-60674626354554522962011-12-12T10:05:07.462-05:002011-12-12T10:05:07.462-05:00Marie Stopes was Britain's equivalent to Marga...Marie Stopes was Britain's equivalent to Margaret Sanger, and was influenced by her work. <br />People sometimes get the two confused.<br />Eugenics was broadly popular during the early decades of the 20th century when it was considered progressive and had not yet been discredited.<br />Many famous names were included among its supporters, including Canada's father of medicare, Tommy Douglas, the title of whose master's thesis was "The problems of the subnormal family", (McMaster University, 1933).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-13984723136839601882011-12-12T05:10:27.977-05:002011-12-12T05:10:27.977-05:00You were unaware that Sanger was a rather leading ...You were unaware that Sanger was a rather leading eugenicist, Lorraine? To me, living in another country, that is even the first association I have with that name.<br /><br />To quite some good people Satan is a name evoking just as much admiration as Sanger, though she wasn't quite as bad as some other eugenicists, granted, quoting her would rather give the wrong impression about your cause to some people.Theodorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14634057445114838262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-45213781663579633982011-12-11T22:13:13.581-05:002011-12-11T22:13:13.581-05:00but I do feel that she paved the way for a freedom...but I do feel that she paved the way for a freedom that we enjoy now, or at least the start of a way. interesting piece, what was the last word on those brochures to pass out, because I would def. pass some out!jennhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=518082724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-23992218690259347782011-12-11T19:12:49.721-05:002011-12-11T19:12:49.721-05:00Oh wow, didn't know this Jenn, thanks for aler...Oh wow, didn't know this Jenn, thanks for alerting us. Looks like the raciest mores of the era and her enthusiasm got the best of her. Often our saints have major sins.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-10177295780819471932011-12-11T18:22:47.701-05:002011-12-11T18:22:47.701-05:00interestingly enough Margaret Sanger also targeted...interestingly enough Margaret Sanger also targeted black women for abortions, and wanted to sterilize minorities, yes I am all for safe sex and measures for choice, but dont make a martyr out of a woman who obviously wasnt a saintjennnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-76637301027360948512011-12-11T14:33:29.110-05:002011-12-11T14:33:29.110-05:00I thought EC was the abortion pill-Well,learn some...I thought EC was the abortion pill-Well,learn something every day I wanted to be pregnant, so I wouldn't have taken either pill back when I had my son anyway. But for those not wanting to be pregnant, I guess it's better than having a surgical procedure Really don't know much about any of this I felt like everyone assumed that just because I was 'unmanned' I didn't want my baby or that it was an unintended pregnancy As far as EC I'm not sure I want all those hormone pills floating around over the counter Just more pills that will end up in the water/food supplyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-32821622072240906102011-12-11T09:57:16.751-05:002011-12-11T09:57:16.751-05:00Actually, Anony 4:21 p.m. - you are incorrect. Th...Actually, Anony 4:21 p.m. - you are incorrect. Those findings were for the abortion pill, which is not emergency contraception. That particular drug is still illegal in the US as far as I know.<br /><br />I know that kids start having sex the asap - all this nonsense about teaching them to be responsible is lovely and totally inaccurate. I have yet to meet a girl over the early parts of puberty (remember puberty often starts as early as 8 or 9 years old), that has not, at minimum, flirted with the idea of "going all the way" with a boy they like.<br /><br />Sigh.... definitely linking here....Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815710859859029536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-38939382267143406312011-12-11T09:29:28.650-05:002011-12-11T09:29:28.650-05:00Jane you statement about encourage premarital sex ...Jane you statement about encourage premarital sex is so very accurate. They just do not understand that reality is reality - having a solution to avoid a potential pregnancy does not encourage sex - hormones and that warm fuzzy feeling do. It really isn't rocket science.<br /><br />What really bothers me about all the rhetoric is, that it is aimed solely at the woman and the man - well they sluff that off with "you know boys will be boys, sowing the wild oats" - if they want to go on a crusade, they need to crusade about the attitudes they themselves hold about how one of the two is seen as bad (fill in the blank), and the other is just doing what comes naturally.<br /><br />***<br /><br />Whenever I get a new med to take the pharmacist sits down with me and goes over all the known risk factors. I am also given a print out of risks and signs and symptoms to be aware of and what my first step should be if anything listed happens. I have been on so many different drugs and combinations since I got sick and not once have I not been counselled about the new drug I am given.<br /><br />If a woman can sign away her legal rights to her child as a teenager then surely they must agree (not that I agree with the above), that she has the capability to listen, assess, and make her own educated decision to take something that may on a very rare occasion cause bleeding. <br /><br />***<br /><br />It is crazy to me how many wish to go back in time to those "good old days". It disgusts me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-85778966570184625292011-12-10T17:08:43.919-05:002011-12-10T17:08:43.919-05:00EC-- must be Emergency Conception?EC-- must be Emergency Conception?Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-68600595669157419972011-12-10T14:42:19.473-05:002011-12-10T14:42:19.473-05:00Thank you for writing about this. I did a 2 hour p...Thank you for writing about this. I did a 2 hour presentation in my Populations at Risk class for my BSW on rape victims who are often denied EC by ER doctors invoking contentious objection, which is sickening. So much is misunderstood about EC and I'm sick of politicians determining what's right for me and my family (and everyone else) regarding reproduction. My sister-in-law is a PA at Planned Parenthood and she is startled by how many people actually believe EC is the abortion pill. Very, very important topic and I'm glad you're addressing it.Susie Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-49642215853830371752011-12-10T08:18:21.630-05:002011-12-10T08:18:21.630-05:00The amount of progesterone for The Morning After p...The amount of progesterone for The Morning After pill is way less (1.5 mg) than what is given to pregnant women who are older and have trouble miscarrying (25 mg.), for which it is routinely prescribed. In fact, doctors treating women over 35 who become pregnant and do not prescribe it are taking a risk that the woman will lose the baby. Progesterone is also prescribed in very high dosages to women who suffer from exaggerated PMS, medically called PMDD (PreMenstrual Dysphoric Disorder). That dose can be as high as 800 mg. a day. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is best taken with progesterone, usually a 2.5 mg. dose, but it need not be taken daily with estrogen.<br /><br />While any hormone carries the possibility of an unwanted side effect, the three major medical associations who deal with pregnancy would not have approved progesterone being available so easily if the risk was more than miniscule. And it is worth noting that you can die from an overdose of aspirin or acetaminophen.<br /><br />Ill side effects from progesterone are extremely rare. The effect of an unwanted pregnancy is pretty drastic.<br /><br />What makes me so informed about this? I used to be a health and medical writer and wrote extensively about progesterone. I became interested because it so completely treated the symptoms of my own PMDD, and for that reason, I have been very aware of its other uses.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-74299023616968185412011-12-09T17:37:20.611-05:002011-12-09T17:37:20.611-05:00Even when a patient can get a prescription, many p...Even when a patient can get a prescription, many pharmacies will refuse to fill it. They will recommend another pharmacy that will provide the drug but that can result in delays and make it hard to get. Maybe we should start a boycott(girlcott?) of pharmacies that won't provide Plan B.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-74109621920694952772011-12-09T17:35:07.506-05:002011-12-09T17:35:07.506-05:00The evangelicals oppose Plan B not only because th...The evangelicals oppose Plan B not only because they consider it a sort of abortion but also because it will encourage girls to have premarital sex.<br /> <br />Of course this is nonsense -- if a girl PLANS on having sex, she doesn't need Plan B since she has already arranged for Plan A.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669797756463841249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-84078306652715526822011-12-09T16:21:30.178-05:002011-12-09T16:21:30.178-05:00I'm going to get attacked for this and since I...I'm going to get attacked for this and since I'm no expert on the morning-after pill,correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it sometimes dangerous,causing hemorrhaging in some people who may have susceptibility to bleeding.Therefore,I'm not so sure it should be given without some sort of supervisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com