tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post1808951834799803047..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: Edwards Expresses love for 'love child' QuinnLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-56125348174321101342012-06-17T05:01:53.987-04:002012-06-17T05:01:53.987-04:00I wish my birthmother would consent to having a &q...I wish my birthmother would consent to having a "lousy lunch" with me. My birthdad pursued a relationship with me as an adult (he's dead now), perhaps to assuage his guilt over having abandoned her and myself when she got pregnant.<br /><br />But she herself has no desire to re-open that phase of her life and connect with it - which is what a reunion with me would force her to do.<br /><br />As a result, her pain comes ahead of my need to meet her and learn about my "roots." You might say that her pain is more important to avoid than my pain is important to address. I can so relate to Jane. And, I, too, rejoiced when John Edwards came out and expressed his love for Quinn. That was very necessary for her, to counteract the earlier public denial and its assault upon her self-esteem. He owes her a lot of reassurance as she grows up now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-22516225164547237532012-06-03T20:28:13.560-04:002012-06-03T20:28:13.560-04:00Comments debating Elizabeth Edwards character are ...Comments debating Elizabeth Edwards character are closed. Pointless bickering.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-84000617799881408802012-06-03T20:00:32.986-04:002012-06-03T20:00:32.986-04:00Being glad someone is dead is about as far into &q...Being glad someone is dead is about as far into "extreme hatred" as one can go. Anyone can see that.<br /> <br />Anon 5:22PM said:<br />"I am happy for everyone that elizabeth is dead ...especially for her donor conceived kids who hopefully will find their real moms."<br /><br />Also the several expressions about Elizabeth wishing to kill Rielle and child. Lots of hate and violence in that imagery.<br /><br />The fact that someone used donor eggs may be problematic but is not a sane reason for the kind of virulent hatred expressed here.<br /><br />John Edwards was just doing what he always does in his recent comments, saying whatever will improve his image, and what is politically advantageous and expedient. I don't see why you identify with either Edwards or Rielle or applaud their actions and statements. No reason to hate them either, just don't give them the attention they so crave. It is just very sad for all the children involved. <br /><br />Still DisgustedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-38125078027959473152012-06-03T13:57:19.558-04:002012-06-03T13:57:19.558-04:00Lorraine,
The press did bring up the fact that th...Lorraine,<br /><br />The press did bring up the fact that the Edwards' most likely used donor eggs to have their two youngest children. Below is a link to a Slate article. The article is positive on donor eggs.<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2004/10/did_elizabeth_edwards_use_donor_eggs.htmlBettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-17583185036783294232012-06-03T11:31:44.075-04:002012-06-03T11:31:44.075-04:00I too am amazed that Elizabeth Edwards got drawn i...I too am amazed that Elizabeth Edwards got drawn into the line of fire. It seems to have happened because people were only too willing to dump on Rielle (yes she is not innocent but...), and others pointed out that the "good wife" Elizabeth was not a saint. <br /><br />But I don't see "extreme hatred" as you do, Anon. It seems to me that some readers were offended that I found any joy in the comments John Edwards made about Quinn. I take his comments at face value, without imputing ulterior motives to him. His comments about Quinn made me happy. Relieved. Reminded me of the contrast between him and my daughter's father who could not bring himself to meet our daughter, all those years later, long long after his marriage ended. I noted the contrast. <br /><br />But finding anything praiseworthy about John Edwards set off a chain of negative comments from anonymous people, who are upset that I found solace in his words. As for Elizabeth, I had not seen that column about her accepting Quinn before. And of course she didn't have to accept or forgive Rielle, why should she? But if the column someone sent a link to is accurate, I was wrong in my assessment of her. The press, as far as I know, has never brought up the fact that Elizabeth Edwards may have/probably used donated eggs for the last two children. She was 49 and 50 when she had them a year apart. I suppose it is possible, but dicey. Maybe she had frozen her eggs earlier, for some reason. We'll never know for sure, I suspect. <br /><br />Oddly enough, Rita Watson, the writer of that column, is an old friend, since before Birthmark.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-29409069520100568262012-06-03T10:23:46.418-04:002012-06-03T10:23:46.418-04:00I really don't understand the extreme negativi...I really don't understand the extreme negativity that has been expressed here towards Elizabeth Edwards.<br />So she used donor eggs to get pregnant? That's a concern for me too, but it must have been a decision she made in cooperation with her husband. Whatever anyone thinks, it doesn't make her into an evil person any more than her distress and anger over her husband's infidelity makes her into someone who would kill the other mother and her baby.<br /><br />I too hope that, in Lorriane's words, Quinn can be "treasured as she should... not just as some symblol of lives gone wrong".<br />But I just don't see why all the hatred for Elizabeth Edwards. It's scarily irrational.<br /><br />Another DisgustedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-11760610744022877132012-06-02T23:38:13.971-04:002012-06-02T23:38:13.971-04:00Shaylene,
Cate Edwards is supposed to take care o...Shaylene,<br /><br />Cate Edwards is supposed to take care of the egg donor children, Jack, 11 and Emma Claire, 13. Jack and Emma Claire have no known mother and their father (presumably John is the bio father) has been busy with other things.Bettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-89707101863452603692012-06-02T23:02:48.665-04:002012-06-02T23:02:48.665-04:00If this is true, Elizabeth Edwards embraced her hu...If this is true, Elizabeth Edwards embraced her husband's "love child" towards the end of her life. So much for leaving her out in the cold to die, huh?<br />http://www.examiner.com/article/elizabeth-edwards-expected-blended-family-not-wedding-rielle-hunterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-70494987067481146432012-06-02T22:42:37.418-04:002012-06-02T22:42:37.418-04:00Shaylene said: "Who is suggesting that Elizab...Shaylene said: "Who is suggesting that Elizabeth Edwards was supposed to take care of Quinn?"<br /><br />Nobody. By duty of care, I meant that she owed Quinn nothing in terms of looking out for her interests. That does not make her a baby snuffer. <br /><br />Lorraine: "I kept thinking how her actions were like a mother lion ready to kill the other mother and her baby." <br /><br />Shaylene: "Elizabeth Edwards from what I read elsewhere did seem like someone who would leave a baby from another mother out in the cold to die."<br /><br />Your statements speak for themselves.Drakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-23709814982508834932012-06-02T22:00:11.323-04:002012-06-02T22:00:11.323-04:00Ain't nobody suggesting Elizabeth Edwards shou...Ain't nobody suggesting Elizabeth Edwards should be nominated for sainthood either.<br />Too many nuts in cake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-11945215220029803752012-06-02T21:17:01.879-04:002012-06-02T21:17:01.879-04:00Who is suggesting that Elizabeth Edwards was suppo...Who is suggesting that Elizabeth Edwards was supposed to take care of Quinn? I didn't read that anywhere here except in the comments of the nasties who seem to have a grudge against this blog. <br /><br />Quinn has a mother. And a father. Lorraine didn't make Rielle a saint or a "family preservationist." What are you smoking? Only someone (that means you, Anonymous and Drako) would say something that stupid.Shaylenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-25320778485906596222012-06-02T20:49:48.732-04:002012-06-02T20:49:48.732-04:00Before anyone nominates Elizabeth Edwards for sain...Before anyone nominates Elizabeth Edwards for sainthood, she should keep in mind that Elizabeth was the kind of woman who bought the eggs of another woman (risking the health and even the life of this woman) in order to meet Elizabeth's neurotic need to replace her son tragically killed in an auto accident at age 16. <br /><br />Now there are two young children whose faux mommy is dead and real mommy unknown. There's a reason that nature doesn't allow women to have bio-children in their 50's. <br /><br />According to news reports, their half sister, Cate, is going to take on much of the responsibility for raising them. Unfair to her, unfair to them.Bettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-8596041081845260952012-06-02T20:06:54.583-04:002012-06-02T20:06:54.583-04:00Shaylene, you were the one who suggested that &quo...Shaylene, you were the one who suggested that "Elizabeth Edwards from what I read elsewhere did seem like someone who would leave a baby from another mother out in the cold to die." <br /><br />Elizabeth Edwards owed no duty of care to this mother or this child. To suggest that she is somehow remiss is ridiculous. The woman was dying and hubs couldn't keep his dick in his pants. Keep it real. The child has her mother. End of story, even on FMF.Drakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-34874472741266894302012-06-02T18:35:58.115-04:002012-06-02T18:35:58.115-04:00Anon 5:22
I hope that was a bad attempt at sarcasm...Anon 5:22<br />I hope that was a bad attempt at sarcasm but I fear not. If you really are glad a woman you never met is dead, you are sick. Really, none of this sordid mess has anything to do with family preservation one way or another. Just a lying golddigger and a lying politician not caring what they did to anyone else in their trainwreck dishonest selfish lives.<br /><br />Nothing to see here, everyone move along....<br /><br />DisgustedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-9832016500755125112012-06-02T18:26:19.103-04:002012-06-02T18:26:19.103-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Shaylenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-38159360454652185942012-06-02T17:22:36.622-04:002012-06-02T17:22:36.622-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-61758616160142927762012-06-02T15:01:02.354-04:002012-06-02T15:01:02.354-04:00John Edwards wasn't being courageous when he p...John Edwards wasn't being courageous when he proclaimed his love for his daughter, Lorraine. He was being expedient.<br /><br />“I don’t think God’s through with me. I think he thinks there are still things I can do” he said. <br />Whether he is still nursing political ambitions (Let's hope not) or decides on a more "spiritual" path, he still needs to clean up his image in the public eye. It's going to take a lot more than public statements of paternal love to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-78445368855335787302012-06-02T14:30:53.287-04:002012-06-02T14:30:53.287-04:00Janet:
Of course Jane's father "denied&...Janet: <br /><br />Of course Jane's father "denied" her. She wanted to meet him; it was never the "right" time. He had a drinking problem, and he totally shied away from any kind of emotional confrontations unless there was absolutely no way to avoid them, that is, someone else made a move or brought up an unpleasant subject. I have no idea whether he ever told his first wife about the daughter we had; of course it came out in the book--by that time he was long divorced and I think, remarried--and he knew that his first wife had read it because she told him. <br /><br />I loved him, and thought well of him despite everything, but lost respect for him when, all those years later, he refused to meet our daughter. Then I totally gave up on him as a man of character.<br /><br />So to read that Edwards publicly acknowledged his love for Quinn affectted me. Despite the rest of the story, he did what my daughter's father did not have the courage to do.Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-41645354444796553022012-06-02T13:53:25.446-04:002012-06-02T13:53:25.446-04:00I've read this post a few times and just keep ...I've read this post a few times and just keep being struck by the words of Lorraines daughter..."all I wanted was a lousy lunch" <br /><br />No disrespect Lorraine butin his own way her father did deny her. Just as most of the fathers of our lost children denied them. We all must realize that in any given moment our lives could be over.<br /> Who out there needs to have a "lousy lunch" with you?Janetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-30921214154363726342012-06-02T13:34:09.092-04:002012-06-02T13:34:09.092-04:00Yes, no one is disputing that the child remains in...Yes, no one is disputing that the child remains innocent. As our Elizabeth's Edward's children.<br /><br />I'm sure John Edward's late coming platitudes of love will more than make up for his early refusal to even acknowledge his parentage, his efforts and that of his election team "to make it(the pregnancy/scandal)" go away" and the fact that he littered the path to this parenting moment with pain and betrayal for those he had pledged a life of commitment to. Yep, that that little kiddo has lots to be "thankful for" that Daddy is finally recognizing her publically. *eye roll*<br /><br />Kind of sticks in my throat a bit tossing a positive nod his way.<br /><br />I don't see the parallels mentioned and don't believe for one moment adoption was ever on the table for this child. At least not in Ms. Hunter's well funded version.<br /><br />Picking on a dead woman is just cruel and useless. She was harmed in this too at the most vulnerable time in her life; battling for her life wasn't enough? <br /><br />Sorry. He was and is scum. I feel for that kid! Platitudes or not!<br /><br />HarrietAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-47778421412954192622012-06-02T13:32:39.094-04:002012-06-02T13:32:39.094-04:00I forgot to add, 12.33 PM, that you are a fine one...I forgot to add, 12.33 PM, that you are a fine one to accuse Anonymous of throwing stones when you clearly feel it's okay for you to suggest Elizabeth Edwards is someone who would kill her rival's baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-48003859232166842172012-06-02T13:23:54.200-04:002012-06-02T13:23:54.200-04:00Anon 12.33 PM, where did you read anything that in...Anon 12.33 PM, where did you read anything that indicated that Elizabeth Edwards was the kind of woman who would leave Rielle Hunter's baby by John Edwards "out in the cold to die"? I'd like to see it. <br />If you can't come up with anything more convincing than that ugly and unsubstantiated suggestion, I recommend you keep your poisonous ideas to yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-59248816313889122442012-06-02T12:33:49.873-04:002012-06-02T12:33:49.873-04:00Anonymous: I am sure Lorrine knows it is the male ...Anonymous: I am sure Lorrine knows it is the male lion who kills the cubs sired by another father, but Elizabeth Edwards from what I read elsewhere did seem like someone who would leave a baby from another mother out in the cold to die. <br /><br />Of course she had a right to be angry but Quinn wasn't responsible. That's all. Lorraine wasn't like Rielle but if you know her story you could understand why she is not throwing stones, like you are.Shaylenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-81938259899308560462012-06-02T11:52:10.085-04:002012-06-02T11:52:10.085-04:00I was impressed with John Edwards for saying publi...I was impressed with John Edwards for saying publicly that he hopes Quinn will one day be able to find it in her heart to forgive him for denying that he is her father.<br /><br />It this had happened in the BSE most likely Quinn would have been given up for adoption. I'm so glad that times have changed and she was kept. Agreeing with Anon 7:34am that I don't see much similarity between a woman in her early 20s and a 40 something opportunist.<br /><br />Ms. Hunter has written a tell all book which should be out at the end of June. Jai Pausch (widow of Randy Pausch of 'The Last Lecture' fame) has also penned a memoir. In it she writes that Randy sugested that she give their their youngest child (only a few months old at the time) up for adoption. Thank heavens she refused. I can't imagine how he could think that giving up their daughter would help anything in this tragic situation. I guess it just goes to show how naive some people are about the true impact of adoption.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-82994262022843151432012-06-02T11:03:18.382-04:002012-06-02T11:03:18.382-04:00I was so happy to hear Edwards publicly proclaim h...I was so happy to hear Edwards publicly proclaim his devotion to his lovely daughter. Yes, the whole episode reeked with sleaze but we are all entitled to a chance at redemption. This family seems to be on the road to healing. They have endured the untimely death of a wife/mother and son/brother. I hope they can come together in love and acceptance.maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067284504038707207noreply@blogger.com