tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post902497908695091645..comments2024-03-27T20:48:39.389-04:00Comments on [Birth Mother] First Mother Forum: How birth mothers are intimidated by unscrupulous adoption agenciesLorraine Duskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-83436147144881746452012-12-06T01:47:31.302-05:002012-12-06T01:47:31.302-05:00There is a support page for Rachel and her son her...There is a support page for Rachel and her son here:<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForGrayson?fref=tsetropichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12598931891313075439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-73072458970246993232012-11-01T15:09:05.681-04:002012-11-01T15:09:05.681-04:00We've Googled Rachel and checked her website ...We've Googled Rachel and checked her website and Facebook page but haven't found any more information on her case. We'll pass on updates as we learn them.Jane Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09715622112694146946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-87358992200780115102012-11-01T10:35:52.447-04:002012-11-01T10:35:52.447-04:00How did the hearing go? How did the hearing go? likereallywowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144884749467248213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-5716567148040133702012-10-27T18:36:02.628-04:002012-10-27T18:36:02.628-04:00These coercive tactics make me sick. I just want t...These coercive tactics make me sick. I just want to let you know, I'm in touch with Rachel, hopefully we can help her somehow. <br /><br />For others who have been promised an open adoption, and had it restricted or closed, we are currently doing an open adoption legal project to hold these lawyers and agencies accountable. Please feel free to contact me to get involved. Feel free to contact me for more information. <br /><br />Thankx!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-10111110646271525472012-10-27T13:08:57.805-04:002012-10-27T13:08:57.805-04:00I agree, Anon, where is the outrage???
I think it...I agree, Anon, where is the outrage???<br /><br />I think it just shows how our society in general is quick to think the mothers in these scenarios are addicts/whores/welfare mommas and the AP's are saints/blessed/worthy above all else. <br /><br />People are quick to think of the "poor adoptive parents" and how the baby will "lose the only home they have ever known" if they are rightfully returned to the parents. Even though the baby has only been with the AP's for days and has been with the mother for 9 months. It makes my blood boil!<br /><br />This country needs to seriously look at itself and its preconceived notions about who places their babies for adoption. We are not BAD and not all AP's are GOOD. Leenburkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006552239468993511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-19441757726469647912012-10-27T07:44:24.800-04:002012-10-27T07:44:24.800-04:00Where is the outrage?!
So many people seem to jus...Where is the outrage?!<br /><br />So many people seem to just not care when a mother is raped of her child, and that seriously scares me. Where do I live, the Middle East or the United States?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-8463695206129095662012-10-25T14:36:31.353-04:002012-10-25T14:36:31.353-04:00As far as I understand, Rachel still has not found...As far as I understand, Rachel still has not found an attorney willing to take the case pro bono. I will let you know as soon as I hear anything. Lorraine Duskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18285341379272250245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-60857500679964992042012-10-25T14:01:11.908-04:002012-10-25T14:01:11.908-04:00Has anyone filed a complaint with the office of li...Has anyone filed a complaint with the office of licensing in FL? If this horrible agency has enough complaints against them, they could have their licenses revoked, and then thy would cease operation.<br /><br />I hope Rachel finds a lawyer soon.Starlightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-74389813096311862482012-10-25T13:55:23.109-04:002012-10-25T13:55:23.109-04:00The social worker and hospital people are the ones...The social worker and hospital people are the ones who told me my baby had to stay in the hospital My parents had said he could come home Just to clarify When I repeatedly tried to get him back, over a period of months, I couldn't and since I had gotten into an extremely difficult situation with my son's father and he was threatening me- I didn't seeWell, this all happened many years ago and I wish I could stop thinking about it-what I really wish is that all mothers and children could stay together because the psycological consequences on the rest of my life is so awful,even though they tell you "you'll forget and have other children"What I did learn was how irreplaceable each person is HaHa-what a way to learn-the joke's on me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-55632543599799173082012-10-25T13:32:42.669-04:002012-10-25T13:32:42.669-04:00My stomach hurts from reading this story I remembe...My stomach hurts from reading this story I remember so well, the social worker waving to me and carrying a baby blanket as my parents took me home from the hospital They had told me that my baby couldn't leave that day because he had slight jaundice and had to go "under the lights" It turned out he did leave that day and they took him to a foster homeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-53784093739129789322012-10-25T09:32:35.773-04:002012-10-25T09:32:35.773-04:00I'm so disgusted by this story. Can't sh...I'm so disgusted by this story. Can't she get the DA involved to press charges against the agency? It's completely wrong that no attorney will take the case. FL law really does benefit ap's and that's why so many people go there to adopt. <br /><br />We talked to our birthmom for hours before and since, if there had been any indication from here that she was changing her mind, we would have backed out and supported her decision. We only came to the hospital when she called us and asked us too. I didn't take anything to the hospital for the baby to wear because I didn't want there to be any additional pressure.<br /><br />But what galls me the most is the threat of jail time. That is FRAUD on the part of the agency. And that is illegal. As ap's we know that those expenses we've paid are at risk, that if she decides to keep the child that we just lose that money. It's wrong that expectant moms don't know this up front. Before the TPR was signed in our case, our birthmom told us about someone who changed their mind and she was surprised they didn't have to pay back the money. I made sure she understood that it's illegal for anyone to ask for that money back if she changes her mind.<br /><br />This whole story makes me angry. These types of situations hurt everyone involved. And this type of behavior shouldn't be allowed.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-49886845983918096062012-10-25T04:01:39.063-04:002012-10-25T04:01:39.063-04:00It should not be allowed for an adoption agency or...It should not be allowed for an adoption agency or prospective adoptive parents to pay hospital fees or to pay any exepenses to an expectant mother. This sets up a situation of obligation and expectation. You only see this in U.S.A.<br /><br />In other countries this is seen as unethical.J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-36689205748968250812012-10-24T21:43:29.492-04:002012-10-24T21:43:29.492-04:00Horrible, tragic, nightmare only begins to describ...Horrible, tragic, nightmare only begins to describe what happened! Hoping and praying she finds a way to get her precious baby back and soon!Ronihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840068585299914747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-29417176274936613172012-10-24T19:35:37.032-04:002012-10-24T19:35:37.032-04:00What an awful agency!! This is so hard to read abo...What an awful agency!! This is so hard to read about. I "liked" her facebook page about this. Glad to see it's getting attention & support. This agency is making me sick. I'm just imagining them bringing Grayson to his adoptive parents and saying "she changed her mind!". Disgusting. I don't often sympathize with aparents but in this case they're victims too of this awful agency. Lying to them for their money. Not as bad as lying to someone for their child... but it's just terrible all around.Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-18495278264931138022012-10-24T16:52:44.497-04:002012-10-24T16:52:44.497-04:00And another really sad part about this situation i...And another really sad part about this situation is that some day Grayson may be reunited with his firstmother (if she doesn't get him back) and he may mistakenly believe that she didn't want him. As a firstmother myself, one of the reasons my reunion relationship with my child failed miserably was due to the fact that my child, despite being highly educated, continues to believe that he was basically thrown out like a piece of trash and refused to believe that coercion was a factor. This belief, of course, created anger, bitterness, resentment etc. and a healthy relationship became impossible. If it's difficult for some to believe the coercion factors from the 60's era, i suspect that today's young mothers who give up their babies will have an even tougher time convincing their found children that they felt as though they had no choice.Samanthanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-66112194893856686482012-10-24T12:51:24.454-04:002012-10-24T12:51:24.454-04:00Her story has so many elements in common with my o...Her story has so many elements in common with my own circumstances when I lost my newborn over 22 years ago, including being threatened by police. Legal assistance was nonexistent, and the police would not help at all. I did not go to an agency and was adamant that adoption wasn't an option, so when I hear that an agency is pulling the same crap that an unlicensed, illegal facilitator did with me it's disgusting and triggering at the same time. I'm stupefied, dumbstruck, *flabbergasted* that this is legal! <br /><br />And how much more do you want her to fight? The whole fiasco is predicated on lack of support. If she loses him permanently it's through lack of support. *smh* No (wo)man is an island, entire of itself.maru67https://www.blogger.com/profile/16661693981779395753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-17141639660808950612012-10-24T11:49:39.943-04:002012-10-24T11:49:39.943-04:00I can assure you, Monika, that Rachel is doing EVE...I can assure you, Monika, that Rachel is doing EVERYTHING she can to get her son back. She doesn't have an attorney because no one is willing to take her case. I can show you a pile of "rejection letters" from attorneys not wanting to help her. She is operating pro se - a difficult struggle, and she is persevering despite all the obstacles.<br />How do you think it feels to sit across from the table ALONE with a group of unscrupulous people who have ILLEGALLY stolen your baby and who are using legalized lies to keep him away? I'm crumble under that stress. But she is moving forward.. and yes she needs help! <br />Thanks for the "support."didinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-25365011408312046712012-10-24T11:06:00.850-04:002012-10-24T11:06:00.850-04:00I posted some of the details I got on this case on...I posted some of the details I got on this case on my own blog, but from what I understand is that her attorney even stopped by Rachel's house and there was nothing done on the case. I'm NOT saying that the agency is good. I think they are HORRID. But if Rachel's not doing the fighting that she needs to do to get Grayson back, then no one can help her.Monikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09598390010327967653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-19400368677391234072012-10-24T09:50:27.326-04:002012-10-24T09:50:27.326-04:00Threatening to have a mother "thrown in jail&...Threatening to have a mother "thrown in jail" is a new low and ploy that I have never heard. The one's who belong in jail are the people who kidnapped this child, the baby brokers. <br /><br />Let this be a warning to any and all vulnerable young women faced with an unplanned pregnancy. What ever you do, DO NOT get involved with an adoption agency. Don't even call them. You are putty in their hands once they weasel their way into your life and start dictating what is "best" for a woman whom they have not one ounce of compassion or empathy for. It is all about the bottom line, the profit they will procure from their paying customers. <br /><br />As a mother of adoption loss AND open adoption fraud, this makes my blood boil. These people cannot get away with this... Mom422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-71268829474506439162012-10-23T22:10:16.093-04:002012-10-23T22:10:16.093-04:00When I first had contact with Rachel, I prepared m...When I first had contact with Rachel, I prepared myself to tell her the worst - that once you sign in FL - you're done. But then, she told me about the drugs, the way the agency sent the couple to the hospital to pressure her and force her to tell them she was parenting, the delay in discharging both her and Grayson from the hospital, and how she walked out of the hospital - not in a wheelchair and no hospital staff in sight, I just couldn't believe my ears.....and we got straight to work. She had no clue what had to be done, but she was desperate, and listened to her heart. She wants her son back. She has done a lot of work to get the proof of everything gathered, she is staying focused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-574300303008890516.post-7935017337509952552012-10-23T21:52:41.348-04:002012-10-23T21:52:41.348-04:00I can't believe we are seeing ANOTHER adoption...I can't believe we are seeing ANOTHER adoption nightmare with a child named "Grayson" - I swear this name is cursed. (Sorry to anyone named Grayson!)<br />My heart is breaking... this mother still has not been able to find a lawyer who will represent her. She desperately needs help. <br />They are trying the old "stall stall stall" technique... I don't understand how the lawyers, the agency, and the PAPs can put a mother through all of this! I wonder if the PAPs even know what a horror they've walked into... I pray they don't know.<br />I also pray that once they do know, they'll do the right thing - but I somehow feel the agency and attorney are "working" them, too... <br />Adoption as it stands in this country has got to stop.didinoreply@blogger.com